Robert Smith to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: ‘Jason Cooper is The Cure’s drummer… bah!’

If Robert Smith’s happy about The Cure’s nomination to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, he’s not showing it — instead, he’s taken to his website to slam the organization for not mentioning the band’s current drummer in its bio of the group, writing, “Jason Cooper is The Cure’s drummer — and it sickens me that he doesn’t get a name check… bah!”

As Chain of Flowers points out, Smith posted the comment — in trademark all-caps — in the comment thread following The Cure’s announcement Tuesday that the band will reprise its “Reflections” concerts, performing 1979’s Three Imaginary Boys, 1980’s Seventeen Seconds and 1981’s Faith  in London, New York and Los Angeles this November.

Specifically, he’s taken issue with the rock hall’s bio, which, while mentioning two keyboardists (Lol Tolhurst and Roger O’Donnell), only mentions drummer Boris Williams, who played with the band from 1984 to 1993, despite the fact that Cooper now has drummed with the band for 17 years.

Smith’s full comment:

BORIS WILLIAMS, LOL TOLHURST AND JASON COOPER HAVE EACH BEEN THE CURE’S DRUMMER ON FOUR ALBUMS… BORIS WILLIAMS WAS IN THE BAND FOR 9 YEARS AND LOL TOLHURST FOR 11 YEARS (5 YEARS AS DRUMMER)… BUT JASON COOPER HAS BEEN DRUMMING WITH THE CURE FOR 17 YEARS, FROM 1994 TO THE PRESENT DAY… JASON COOPER IS THE CURE’S DRUMMER – AND IT SICKENS ME THAT HE DOESNT GET A NAME CHECK… BAH! RSX

Smith also dropped another bit of news in the comments, writing that the planned DVD of the “Reflections” concerts at the Sydney Opera House earlier this year “is ongoing,” but that, “I suspect Live in Paris 2008 may beat it out,” apparently a reference to a film of The Cure’s March 12, 2008, concert at the Palais Omnisport de Paris-Bercy.

 

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25 Comments

  • Andrew

    Yes, he has been the drummer since Wild Mood Swings, but the only record that he sounds acceptable on is Bloodflowers. Sorry Robert, but Cooper’s drumming is sub-par. He did, however, have enormous shoes to fill.

     
  • still think Boris is better….

     
  • Frank

    I lost interest in the Cure around the same time as Boris left – coincidence…? Boris is an epic drummer. I’m by no standard a drum connoisseur but to me his patterns were always pretty amazing!

     
  • Agreed… Boris was the best. And, frankly, The Cure hasn’t made a decent album since “Wish,” when Boris last appeared. Sadly, Robert Smith also has not evolved since then lyrically, musically or stylistically (both music and fashion). They WERE a great bad. “Faith,” “Pornography” and “Disintegration” are amazing enough to get them into the HOF.

     
  • Andrew

    Yeah, Cooper does this signature hip hop drumming thing and when he does it on older songs, it makes me cringe.

    The band from 1985-1992 was amazing in so many ways.

    Now, they have an ill suited drummer and the worst fucking nu-metal guitars (Schecters) in the world. It is sad.

     
    • Alfredo

      I agree with you, Andrew. That hip hop drumming -that it’s his signature sound- ruins all the classics! Jason plays the same fills over and over again in 90% of the songs and his drum patterns are so dull!
      Boris Williams is the best drummer The Cure will ever have. Period.

       
  • Craig

    Please. Get over yourself. How many damn line-up changes has this band been through. Who the heck knows who is the current member with their revolving door? He should be thrilled such a washed up band is even being considered.

     
  • Boris was the best drummer, no doubt there. And I agree Qwez, the only acceptable Cure album since Wish was Bloodflowers, and that’s stretching it. Wild Mood Swings was awful. ‘The Cure’ had its moments, but wasn’t great. 4:13 dream was terrible with a few exceptions.

    IMO The Cure in the 17 years Jason has been the drummer have only put out a handful of decent tunes.

    Their albums from 3IM to Wish were perfection. And Let’s not forget Andy Anderson who drummed on The Top!

    Jason Cooper has always been a hired gun imo, and if Boris wanted to come back he would be shelved by Smithy, like Perry & Roger were shelved when Porl came back.

    I think it’s great they are playing ‘Reflections’ in the USA. However, it would impress me more if they could actually put out a ‘good’ album.

     
  • I agree that Wish was their last best album, though i FINALLY just got Bloodflowers in the last year and it’s not bad at all. Having said that, they still put on a helluva live show, and I really hope I’m able to get tickets and go to one of the LA shows!

     
  • Boris is gone. Get over it.

     
  • Steve

    While Robert does need to realize that most people beyond hardcore Cure fans do not pay attention to their ever revolving line-up (my brother got me into the Cure, and I’m sure HE doesn’t even know who the hell is in the band these days)… I do not agree with Wish being their last best record…I actually think 4:13 Dream has some redeeming qualities, hell, I even like a few songs from the self-titled The Cure…and I also think Bloodflowers is a bit over-rated now!

    Just please bring ‘Reflections’ to Chicago, Robert…please!! I

     
  • Maybe because Cooper has been much-maligned, and the Cure’s artistically relevant period ended about when he joined the band (coincidentally). Kept waiting for Smith to dump the sad-boy routine and the birds nest hair and makeup, but he never did…

     
  • Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is a joke. I wish artists wouldn’t encourage the circle jerk.

     
  • Julia

    Those were the best and most realistic comments I’ve read on The Cure over the past years. I agree with all of you concerning Jason Cooper, who I can’t understand why Robert cares so much about. He’s not a creative drummer in any aspect and he ruins the pace on songs such as A Forest. This song live these days has been a source of disappointment to me and I skip it whenever it plays on my ipod.
    And it truly hurts me to admit all that, since I’m a big fan.

    Also, this Reflections mini-tour is ridiculous. They always play in the same places (Paris, London, EUA). What about the fucking rest of the world? People in South America are still obsessed with them as in the 80s. They’d sell out their tickets in seconds here, but no. He’s to lazy to travel up here. I cannot even imagine the amount of money they made to play in Sydney.

     
  • Bones

    As usual, I gotta give mad love for Boris Williams and am glad to see how much recognition you all and the nice people at the HOF have given him with their short yet sweet bio. The reason Jason is left out because there isnt a noteable track or album he’s drummed on. (I dont think the bonus disc of Cures Greatest Hits Counts) He may be a talented drummer, but his drumming is not a match for The Cure or their signature sound. It’s awesome to see Roger back in the band, everyone knows their sound has been awful live without real keyboards in place. And thank you for calling out the awful tone the band have with their Schecter guitars, The Cure need to go back to playing Fender guitars, and pretty much anything Simon plays sounds good.. though if were gonna get technical.. the Eccleshall bass (peter hook status) sounds best for 89-92 Ernie ball music man 87-85 and Fender P Bass for everything older. As far as new material..that Gibson thunderbird looks rad.. but theyre aint a Cure song post 94′ that I can even get into aside from “Want”. much love mates!
    see you in Los Angeles.
    oh and hooray for Lol Tolhursts semi return to the band!!

     
  • Wow! I feel so glad to know that Boris got the credit he deserved (and made Robert mad). Very good for the guys at the HOF… even the photo included (from the Disintegration era) is great!

     
  • Boris Williams best drumers forever & ever ok!

     
  • Agreed: The sound of Jason drums changes dramatically The Cure sound…in a bad way. Its style definitely does not go with the band sound.
    Shame, with Boris, they were AWESOME. Now, they’re just “meh”…

     
  • Felipe

    Boris Williams = The BEST Cure drummer ever!!!
    Sadly Jason is behind Andy Anderson and Lawrence Tolhurst.

     
  • The cure las good album awas Wish, now for me The Cure doesn’t exist!… i was a Cure follower, but after Wish all the music from Cure’s is a piece of ****, some songas are good, but not all the album.

     
  • Burden

    I think we all agree that Boris is the better drummer. The
    question is why did he bail? Did Robert not agree with something? I
    want to know!

     
  • Michael Guerra

    Jason is a very good drummer. But, Boris was great. Sadly, he screwed up big time by leaving the group which may be why Smith could be angry. However, The Cure are still the best band in the world as Robert, Simon, and Roger are still together…

     
  • Roger White

    I’m happy Boris got the recognition he deserves. Since he joined the band, The Cure became a huge success worldwide. When he left The Cure went downhill.
    There is a wise old saying: “A band is only as good as it’s drummer”. Period.

     
 

 

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