Album News — April 1, 2014 at 12:42 am

Robert Smith: The Cure’s ‘4:13 Dream’ sessions to be released as 2 new albums

The Cure, circa 2008

Upset by “ever more negative interpretations” of the interview he conducted last weekend, Robert Smith took to The Cure’s website today to write a nearly 900-word explanation of his plans to finally release the remainder of the music recorded for 2008’s 4:13 Dream, revealing that the unreleased songs will be issued across two different albums.

Previously: Robert Smith not terribly keen on The Cure’s ‘new’ album

As Smith explains in the post — which can be read in full below — he and his then-bandmates recorded 33 songs in 2007 with the intention of releasing a double album. Those plans were scaled back, with 13 of those songs making up 4:13 Dream, and another four used as B-sides for the album’s four singles.

“As a consequence,” Smith writes, “a number of (my favourite!) slower songs and instrumental pieces were left unfinished and unreleased.”

In recent years, Smith writes, he has revisited that music, and worked to complete the project he started in 2007. He writes that his plan is to get to the point “in the next month or three” where he can release two separate albums dedicated to the overarching 4:13 Dream project.

They are:

  • 4:26 Dream: A limited-edition double CD album featuring 26 songs (all remixed), which would be the original 4:13 Dream sessions concept album, including what Smiths calls “instrumentals with words.” Of that collection, 10 or more of the songs will be previously unreleased.
  • 4:14 Scream: The previously announced companion album that will be a single CD of 14 unreleased songs, some of which may also be on 4:26 Dream. But, Smith notes, these versions will all have words and vocals.

So, in the end, Smiths writes, 32 of the 33 songs recorded in 2007 will get released.

Why only 32? “There’s always one…!” he writes.

In the weekend interview, Smith had noted that his plans to release music made “by a band that no longer exists” was something of a “sore point” with the current lineup of The Cure. In the new post, Smith emphasizes, “I think 4:13 Dream is an excellent Cure album, and all the B-sides are fab… but the culmination of the project wasn’t what it should have been.”

He also notes, as he did in the weekend interview, that he’s eager to “create some new music with this current Cure lineup.”

Below, read Smith’s full post on the 4:13 Dream project:

 

AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN…

“Having said all that, I have no idea… I really don’t. I’m really bad at planning long-term stuff.”*

I HAVE LITTLE DESIRE TO BE DRAWN
AND LITTLE CONVICTION IT REALLY MATTERS THAT MUCH…
BUT ON THE BACK OF THE WEARY AND EVER MORE NEGATIVE INTERPRETATIONS OF MY SHORT POST SATURDAY RAH SHOW CHAT WITH XFM
I WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN A VERY SIMPLE CHAIN OF EVENTS AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN, GIVEN A NUMBER OF GENUINE CONSTRAINTS…

LIKE NOT WANTING TO NAME TOO MANY NAMES OR POINT TOO MANY FINGERS

IN 2007 THE CURE (ME, SIMON, JASON AND PORL THOMPSON) REHEARSED AND RECORDED 33 SONGS WITH THE INTENTION OF CREATING A DOUBLE CD ALBUM CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 2 HOURS OF MUSIC:

13 SONGS ON EACH DISC, MOST WITH WORDS AND VOCALS, BUT A FEW WITH WORDS AND NO VOCALS (IE. ‘INSTRUMENTALS WITH WORDS’…!) – THE RUNNING ORDER WAS FLUID, AS I WAS CONSTANTLY REARRANGING THE ORDER IN WHICH THE 33 A4 ‘MASTER SHEETS’ WERE STUCK ON THE WALL OF THE CONTROL ROOM… CHOICE CHANGED DEPENDING ON THE PROGRESS OF THE RECORDING…

WE PLANNED TO RELEASE 4 OF THE ALBUM SONGS AS ‘SINGLES’, PLUS 4 ‘B-SIDES’…
LEAVING A ‘MARGIN OF ERROR’ (SHOULD WE NEED IT) OF 3 SONGS…

HOWEVER, TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROJECT, I RAN OUT OF THE ENERGY AND CONVICTION I NEEDED TO RESIST A GROWING COMMERCIAL (AND TEMPORAL) PRESSURE FROM INDIVIDUALS AND RELEASE STRUCTURES I WAS OBLIGED TO WORK WITH, AND (TO MY DISCREDIT?!!) ABANDONED THE DOUBLE ALBUM/INSTRUMENTALS PLAN…

INSTEAD I COMPILED ‘4:13 DREAM’ (13 SONGS WITH WORDS AND VOCALS), AND IT WAS THIS SINGLE CD ALBUM, ALONG WITH THE 4 OTHER ‘B-SIDE’ SONGS ACCOMPANYING THE 4 (REMIXED) SINGLES, THAT WAS RELEASED IN 2008

COMPILING A SINGLE CD ALBUM REQUIRED A DIFFERENT APPROACH (FOR ONE THING THERE WAS NO LONGER THE TIME TO ‘SPREAD OUT’ AND CONNECT THE DIFFERENT MOODS AS I HAD ORIGINALLY INTENDED… )
AND AS A CONSEQUENCE A NUMBER OF (MY FAVOURITE!) SLOWER SONGS AND INSTRUMENTAL PIECES WERE LEFT UNFINISHED AND UNRELEASED

“AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN”: I THINK ‘4:13 DREAM’ IS AN EXCELLENT CURE ALBUM, AND ALL THE B-SIDES ARE FAB… BUT THE CULMINATION OF THE PROJECT WASNT QUITE WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AS 16 OF THE ORIGINAL 33 SONGS WERE ‘LEFT ON THE SHELF’…

IN 2009 PORL THOMPSON LEFT THE BAND
AND THAT VERSION OF THE CURE WAS OVER
FOR GOOD
AND LIFE CARRIED ON…
IN 2010 THE CURE HAD ‘A YEAR AWAY’
IN 2011 ROGER O’DONNELL REJOINED THE BAND AND THE CURE PLAYED AROUND THE WORLD…
AND ENOUGH TIME HAD PASSED…
AND I GOT THE URGE TO REVISIT OUR ‘LIVE IN PARIS 2008’ FILM TO SEE HOW FAR WE HAD GOT WITH IT…
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 3 YEARS LISTENED TO THE UNRELEASED ‘4:13 DREAM’ SESSION SONGS…
AND I FOUND I STILL LIKED THEM… ALBEIT I WASN’T SURE ABOUT SOME OF THE LYRICS…

…SO I STARTED WRITING NEW WORDS FOR THE INSTRUMENTAL SONGS
AND I STARTED SINGING THEM
AND RESINGING OTHERS
AND I BEGAN THINKING OF WAYS TO FINISH OFF THE PROJECT TO MY SATISFACTION

AND LIFE CARRIED ON…

IN 2012 REEVES GABRELS JOINED THE BAND AND THE CURE PLAYED AROUND THE WORLD…
AND (MAINLY BECAUSE OF THIS ‘PLAYING AROUND THE WORLD’ AND ‘LIFE CARRYING ON’ STUFF) OTHER UNFINISHED PROJECTS STARTED MOUNTING UP…
IN 2013 THE CURE CONTINUED PLAYING SHOWS AROUND THE WORLD…
AND THE PERFORMANCES GOT BETTER AND BETTER…
AND LIFE…

IN 2014 THE CURE CONTINUE(D) PLAYING SHOWS AROUND THE WORLD…

AND MY PLAN THIS SUNNY SPRING MONDAY AT THE END OF MARCH IS TO GET TO THE POINT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR THREE WHERE WE CAN RELEASE:

1)
A LTD EDITION ‘4:26 DREAM’ DOUBLE CD ALBUM OF 26 SONGS (ALL REMIXED) – IE. ‘THE ORIGINAL 4:13 DREAM SESSIONS CONCEPT ALBUM’ (INCLUDING THE ‘INSTRUMENTALS WITH WORDS’) – OF WHICH 10 TRACKS OR MORE WILL BE PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED…

2)
A LTD EDITION ‘4:14 SCREAM’ SINGLE CD ALBUM OF 14 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED SONGS – ALBEIT SOME OF THEM MAY ALSO BE ON ‘4:26 DREAM’… BUT THESE ‘4:14 SCREAM’ VERSIONS WILL ALL HAVE WORDS AND VOCALS…

“AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN”?!!:
ITS MAYBE STILL A BIT TRICKY TO EXPLAIN WITHOUT TITLES AND LYRICS AND…
MUSIC!!!
BUT…
OF THE ORIGINAL 33 SONGS RECORDED IN 2008
32 WILL GET RELEASED
(THERE’S ALWAYS ONE…!)
AND I WILL BE OVERCOME WITH AN IRRESISTIBLE URGE** TO FINISH SOME (ALL?!!) OF THE OTHER OUTSTANDING CURE PROJECTS
LIKE ‘LIVE IN PARIS 2008’ AND ‘REFLECTIONS 2011’ AND ‘SUMMERCURE 2012’ AND ‘LATAM 2013’ (AND ‘RAH TCT 2014’?!!)

…AND CREATE SOME NEW NEW MUSIC WITH THIS CURRENT CURE LINEUP…

“Down, down, deeper and down… ”
HA!
AND ONWARDS
RSX

PS
“AS CLEARLY AND SUCCINCTLY AS I CAN”:
I STILL PREFER PHYSICAL RELEASES TO VIRTUAL… gulp!

PPS
*”Having said all that, I have no idea… I really don’t. I’m really bad at planning long-term stuff.” – ME, AT THE WEEKEND…
**”TRUE ART IS CHARACTERISED BY AN IRRESISTIBLE URGE IN THE CREATIVE ARTIST”… EINSTEIN, SOMETIME EARLIER!!!

 

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10 Comments

  1. Glad to finally get some news from the man himself. He sounds frustrated, and hopefully he connects that feeling to those of his fans.

  2. He’s always been a bit of a frustrated individual, but he should have learned that after 30-plus years in this business never to promise anything. His fan base is rabid, and take things pretty literal. I know contractually they get tied up, but he really shouldn’t mention anything until there are release dates, etc.
    I’m still waiting for In Orange and Show and Play Out on DVD…

  3. If this sucks as bad as 4:13 they can keep it hidden. I’m a big fan, but that album sucks.

  4. Better late than never I guess.

    I’m very interested to hear these versions of the 4.13 songs.

    Once they are released maybe Mr Smith will have new energy for the “new” new album/songs?

  5. Having already bought “4:13 Dream” (which, to be fair, wasn’t their best work – but I still thought it better than the self-titled effort from four years earlier, in my opinion), I probably wouldn’t shell out the dosh for the full double concept album thingy version now (some 6+ years later, new line-up now in place, etc). I know there’d be heaps of CURE die-hards who would, that’s fine. But I would consider buying the standard “4:14” edition, the 13-14 of those other songs that were originally collated as a companion record once 4:13 was released as it ended up. But yeah, further proper new material from the 2010s-era CURE would also be most welcome… Plus those remastered-for-DVD old VHS concerts…

  6. I get why he wouldn’t want to release 5 year old material. However, Cure fans have been waiting half a decade for anything new, so it’s high time ‘something’ gets put out.

    This will also buy Robert another 3 – 4 years before he has to put out more new stuff.

  7. delta-mode

    The Cure were amazing from 79 to 92 but have been releasing one complete dud after another ever since. Only the rabid die-hards will care for any of this.

    • AndyTheCureFan

      That would be me.

      Thanks!

      • Me too… I don’t know why people don’t seem to like the album, although to be completely honest, I saw them live in 08 after having had the Red Rock’s show of 07 delayed for this release, and, at the time, I think I listened to parts of the album 2-3 times…. fast forward to now, and having just seen them for Riot Fest here in Denver, where they played several of these songs, I have now started to listen to the album quite a bit and I really dig it…. Sleep when I’m dead.

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