Podcast — March 3, 2017 at 8:13 am

Listen: Peter Hook and Andy Rourke talk New Order, The Smiths, Manchester and more

The latest episode of the Talkhouse podcast — which features musicians interviewing musicians — finds old friends, bassists and fellow Mancuinans Andy Rourke of The Smiths and Peter Hook of Joy Division and New Order talking a walk down memory lane in a 25-minute chat that finds the two reminiscing about how they met, their respective legal messes and more.

Hook’s appearance is in promotion of his recently published memoir “Substance: Inside New Order,” which leads Hook to ask Rourke if he’s read Morrissey’s autobiography:

Andy Rourke: “I’ve had a, ya know, a browse, a browse through it. I was just checking out what he’s saying about me, basically. Went through the index.”
Peter Hook: “Ya know what, that was the reason why I didn’t want to put an index in my book. Because I didn’t like the thought of Barney (Sumner) going in the bookshop and just browsing through the index. I wanted him to have to suffer it!”

Hook currently is on tour in the U.K. performing Joy Division’s and New Order’s Substance albums.

Subscribe to the Talkhouse podcast via iTunes, or stream the Hook/Rourke episode below.




  1. So great that Andy played bass in Easterhouse’s one-off reunion concert several years ago.

  2. Hook……is just the best!

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